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Why would my idle rise after riding for a half hour?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:37 am
by doolin64
Cross posting a bit from Thumpertalk,

I had my first real ride on my bike the other day. I have a few carburetor related questions.

I noticed this problem before I rejetted, the bike seemed to drip fuel out of the overflow at times. Usually noticed when I leaned it on it's kickstand. I always shut the fuel off when I'm done so I never had any leaking in my shop that I noticed. But yesterday while out on my ride, I stopped to setup the camera for some video and while the bike was idling I noticed fuel dripping out of the overflow. I noticed it too on a failed attempt over a tractor tire. Is it carb overflow hose routing? Float? Or is this normal?

The other thing that happened was as I rode on throughout the day, my idle seemed to pick up. So I backed down the idle adjustment screw. I just don't understand why it wasn't an issue early on. I made sure my throttle wasn't sticking. All was good there.

Currently the carb has the stock pilot, an NECJ needle and a 162 main jet. The air screw is turned out about 2.5 to 2.75 turns. I'm right around sea level give our take a few 100 feet. Temps were around 80F and fairly dry.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Re: Why would my idle rise after riding for a half hour?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:01 am
by Clearvu1
Is this a 300RR? Many, if not most of these bikes need the float level adjusted to stop the overflow issue. It's not a big deal, do a search and you'll find lots of results. Usually an increase in idle is due to a lean condition which could be caused by an air leak somewhere in the system. Check your fittings for a loose bolt and try spraying ether around the carb boots and manifold and listen for a change in idle speed to identify where the problem is. Worst case it could be a leaking crank seal, that usually is very noticeable causing very high idle speed.

Re: Why would my idle rise after riding for a half hour?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:56 am
by doolin64
Thank you. This is a 300RR. I'll try what you suggested.

Re: Why would my idle rise after riding for a half hour?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:41 am
by GMP
Float is probably high yes but thats not the cause of your hanging idle. Your a touch lean on the bottom, adjust the air screw and go to the 38 pilot if needed. The NECJ is great, I run it too, but some bikes @ sea level need the 38 over the 35.

Re: Why would my idle rise after riding for a half hour?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:40 pm
by chrisinflight
Set the float level and the higher idle can be sorted with turning the air-screw in by half turn at a time. I run necj #3, 162 & 35 at sea level to 500m. I need to swing between between 1.5 turns to 2.5 turns depending on temps. and humidity.

Re: Why would my idle rise after riding for a half hour?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:00 pm
by ricoyam
All engines run more efficiently when fully warmed up. The rise in idle speed could simply be the engine reaching a more efficient temp. If you set the idle speed after starting after dechoking you will notice this.

Re: Why would my idle rise after riding for a half hour?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:18 am
by markbxr400
Know it's an old thread, but just bought a new 18 XTrainer. Dealer told me to expect idle to be crap for the first tank of fuel, then to rise and be ok once I refuel. He said, in addition to the oil injection, they add oil to the first tank of fuel as well to help with the break-in. This causes the idle to drop off. Once that tank is gone, he told me to expect the idle to rise. Told me also to expect a higher level of spooge out of the exhaust right up front. Will see what happens.

Re: Why would my idle rise after riding for a half hour?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:12 am
by 74ossaguy
its always possible there could be a little debris in, on, around the float valve needle. Worth a look at least.