49mm SHOWA forks

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Re: 49mm SHOWA forks

Postby dirtynenow » Mon May 07, 2018 12:08 pm

I have the 2017 SFF Air-Tac forks, they are the exact same dimension as the 2017-18 Crf450R/RX showa forks minus the springs. Axle off-set is 33mm that is 2mm less than Beta stock. I like it. to run stock Beta wheel you will need a honda brake hanger. 2001 to current all big bike models should be the same hanger. Need honda axle and nut. The only machine work you will need is the spacer. I bought the Boano 47mm kit but still needed to shave the brake side spacer down 2mm.
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Re: 49mm SHOWA forks

Postby Marty Moose » Mon May 07, 2018 7:16 pm

dirtbird wrote:I was referring to previous 47 and 48 units (and a 49 semi factory but this was very tired example).
As I wrote, the new 49 comes with a KYB-like plastic floating piston which in the long run may need replacement.
Also the cartridge shaft aluminum colored coating doesn't look as hard as the older gold color ones.
I had another small problem when removing the 2nd cartridge from the fork. After unfastening the base (rebound) adjuster, I had a tool holding part of the cartridge outside of the fork in order to unfasten the adjuster itself from the cartridge.
When the cartridge nut came to the end of the shaft threads it was jumping and was not possible to create enough counter force to unfastened the adjuster.
At the end I had to compress the fork more to have more shaft protruding out of the axle lug and then hold it still with the aid of RT shaft jaws in a vise.
Turns out that the nut had pulled some of its threads on the upper, shaft side.
Obviously this may be an isolated example but have never happened before.


Never seen a 48mm showa tc! What models ?

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Re: 49mm SHOWA forks

Postby dirtynenow » Mon May 07, 2018 7:40 pm

2010 to 2014 Crf250R had 48mm twin chambers. That’s it.
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Re: 49mm SHOWA forks

Postby Marty Moose » Mon May 07, 2018 10:21 pm

dirtynenow wrote:2010 to 2014 Crf250R had 48mm twin chambers. That’s it.


They were KYB not Showa.
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Re: 49mm SHOWA forks

Postby hawaiidirtrider » Tue May 08, 2018 12:54 am

I thought Showa was Honda..

Thats what I had on my cr..

https://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda ... r_2013.php
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Re: 49mm SHOWA forks

Postby Marty Moose » Tue May 08, 2018 1:02 am

hawaiidirtrider wrote:I thought Showa was Honda..

Thats what I had on my cr..

https://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda ... r_2013.php


Some models of the CRF had KYB forks can't remember which ones maybe the 450. I don't remember working on any 48mm Showa's but they do exist I see.
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Re: 49mm SHOWA forks

Postby hawaiidirtrider » Tue May 08, 2018 1:18 am

Marty Moose wrote:
hawaiidirtrider wrote:I thought Showa was Honda..

Thats what I had on my cr..

https://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda ... r_2013.php


Some models of the CRF had KYB forks can't remember which ones maybe the 450. I don't remember working on any 48mm Showa's but they do exist I see.
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I see for 2015 crf 450

https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/09/16/2 ... ifications
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Re: 49mm SHOWA forks

Postby Marty Moose » Tue May 08, 2018 3:13 am

hawaiidirtrider wrote:
Marty Moose wrote:
hawaiidirtrider wrote:I thought Showa was Honda..

Thats what I had on my cr..

https://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda ... r_2013.php


Some models of the CRF had KYB forks can't remember which ones maybe the 450. I don't remember working on any 48mm Showa's but they do exist I see.
MM


I see for 2015 crf 450

https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/09/16/2 ... ifications


Made me look it up 450's 2010-12 KYB Aos or SSS, there were some small internal changes with the mid from memory.. The 49's are better than air fork disaster.
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Re: 49mm SHOWA forks

Postby dirtynenow » Tue May 08, 2018 5:43 am

Marty Moose wrote:
dirtynenow wrote:2010 to 2014 Crf250R had 48mm twin chambers. That’s it.


They were KYB not Showa.

I would double check this.
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Re: 49mm SHOWA forks

Postby Goatse » Tue May 08, 2018 8:00 am

My buddy has a CRF450 and it came with factory KYB's.
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